1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 The following program deals with controversial subjects. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,000 The theories expressed are not the only possible interpretations. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 The viewer is invited to make a judgment based on all available information. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Tonight on Sightings from the Russian Republic, our team of investigators captures startling videotape images 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 and returns with eyewitness evidence of bizarre extraterrestrial contact. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Then, is the ghost of Whitechapel a murder victim of London's infamous Jack the Ripper? 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,000 And can science reanimate the Iceman by cloning the special update next? 8 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Welcome to Sightings. I'm Tim White. 9 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000 The defeat of communism in the former Soviet Union has had wide-ranging consequences. 10 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,000 For our Sightings investigative team, it has met unprecedented access to secret documents 11 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,000 and exclusive interviews about one of the most controversial UFO sightings in history. 12 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 In the first of a series of reports from inside Russia, 13 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:29,000 our search for the truth about a mysterious place known as the M Triangle. 14 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 The Republic of Russia is the heart of the new Commonwealth of Independent States 15 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 that was once the Soviet Union. 16 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,000 On a daily basis, new information is released to the people of this country 17 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,000 about the previous government's clandestine activities. 18 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,000 One of the most unlikely activities was a well-organized government effort to research UFO phenomena. 19 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,000 And today, that activity is spoken about openly at the Russian Space Center, 20 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:59,000 especially by those who have been close to the Russian space program, like former Colonel Marina Popovich. 21 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,000 We are presently standing at the Cosmonaut Training Center of Russia. 22 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,000 It is where all the cosmonauts are still trained, even today. 23 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Some of the training includes the proper protocol in cosmonauts dealing with UFOs. 24 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 As a colonel, I used to be a terrible skeptic, 25 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,000 but when I see the government programs dealing with UFOs, I can't ignore this evidence. 26 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 I've seen photos pilots have taken of saucers attacking planes. 27 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 We're also now aware of recurring landing sites. 28 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,000 I have absolutely no doubt that UFOs exist. 29 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,000 It is impossible that in a universe this large, that's expanding so quickly 30 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:40,000 with new stars and planets being formed, that we are a unique planet that sustains life. 31 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:46,000 A team of sightings researchers set out to uncover new information about the Soviet government's UFO research efforts. 32 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Information that had been long suppressed was coming to light. 33 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Even as our investigation began, a guard involved in a routine examination of our credentials 34 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,000 was eager to tell us about his own UFO experiences. 35 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,000 One year and a half ago, I was standing guard here at Lenin's Tomb in Red Square 36 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 when I got a message over the radio. 37 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,000 There was a UFO flying over Spassky Tower. Come quickly. 38 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 When I arrived, I looked, but it had gone away. 39 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,000 But there was definitely an object hovering above the tower for several minutes, one militiaman said. 40 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,000 In the old days, we would be frightened to talk of such things, 41 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,000 but today there is an openness. In fact, there is even a TV show on now about such things. 42 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Once a week, Russians tune their televisions to UFO Unannounced Visit, 43 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 one of the most popular programs in the country. 44 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,000 It deals with UFO mysteries, and its host is Alexander Meechekov, 45 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 a respected journalist and ufologist. 46 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,000 It was from Alexander that we received our first information about the one UFO story 47 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000 that has captured the imagination of all Russia for the past three years. 48 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,000 We have a very interesting and mysterious area around the city of Perm. 49 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,000 The incidents that happened in that area are hard to believe. 50 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,000 So unbelievable that it is hard to compare that area to any other area of anomaly. 51 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 That area is called the Triangle. 52 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,000 The journalist Pavel Muhartov has been there, and I'll tell you, 53 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:11,000 he had unbelievable experiences there, and developed new, almost superhuman abilities 54 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,000 after visiting the Triangle. It's absolutely fantastic. 55 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:21,000 We visited with Pavel Muhartov, the journalist who first broke this story of the M-Triangle. 56 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 He's a man with no formal scientific training, 57 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,000 but he believes he encountered mysterious forces in the M-Triangle zone 58 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 that gave him new abilities and knowledge, 59 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,000 that would eventually lead him to the Russian space program. 60 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,000 I grew up a slight man. My health was never good. 61 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,000 I was even kicked out of the Russian military because I was too frail. 62 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:50,000 This one here is proof that he was discharged from the army for health reasons. 63 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,000 After I was discharged from the military, I worked for a newspaper as a reporter. 64 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 I started reading letters about the M-Triangle zone. 65 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:04,000 He found documents in the archives that one of the KGB agents started to write reports to his superiors 66 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 that strange phenomena started to appear. 67 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,000 There were many UFO sightings, sudden insanity, and dangerous levels of radiation. 68 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,000 My editor sent me there to cover the story. 69 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Wild feelings came over me, strange photos were taken, and many in the group fell ill. 70 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,000 These are the photos taken at night. That's what they saw. 71 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,000 During the night, flying and hovering above them. 72 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 For me, the M-Triangle story is good. 73 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,000 I developed great knowledge about aerospace and about physics, and my health improved. 74 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,000 I quit the newspaper and was immediately accepted into the Soviet space program. 75 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:48,000 The M-Triangle changed my life. I am no longer slight. Now I am a cosmonaut. 76 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,000 The M-Triangle is an area considered to be a hotbed of UFO activity. 77 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:58,000 It is located in a remote area 600 miles east of Moscow and the Ural Mountains. 78 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Eyewitnesses have reported strange craft, mysterious light phenomena, 79 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,000 and encounters of the third kind with translucent beings. 80 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,000 There are even journals and books devoted to the ongoing sightings in the M-Triangle. 81 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,000 When Muhartov first wrote about it, I was skeptical. 82 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,000 It was too obvious that everyone who lived in the area saw all this extraterrestrial activity. 83 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Many suggest that the area is high in mercury deposits, and this is causing hallucinations. 84 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,000 But could it be to the extent that people are seeing signs and letters in the sky? 85 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 There must be something there. 86 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Before our own sightings investigation at the M-Triangle, 87 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 we stopped at the Commonwealth Euphological Center, 88 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 a government agency on the outskirts of Moscow dedicated to UFO research. 89 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Each day we process 15 to 20 UFO reports at our offices, including those from the M-Triangle. 90 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:54,000 We know of the dangers of the zone, and that science has not been able to establish the truth about UFOs in the zone. 91 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,000 But that doesn't rule out the health hazards. 92 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,000 My advice to you is to get in and get out of that dangerous zone. 93 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 It's just not safe. 94 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Working in Russia was made more difficult by the lack of provisions we found available. 95 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,000 This is a typical grocery store in Russia during business hours, 96 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,000 a grim reminder of the upheaval still going on in the New Republics. 97 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:22,000 There may be a free market now, but red cabbage is still too expensive for most shoppers. 98 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:29,000 The harsh conditions bear silent witness to the character of the Russian people who endure this hardship on a daily basis. 99 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 After a two-and-a-half-hour jet flight into the Ural Mountains, 100 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000 the research team flew an additional 90 minutes by helicopter. 101 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:44,000 We agreed to comply with the government's request that we remain in the M-Triangle for 24 hours only. 102 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 The government warned us of dangers there. 103 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,000 People who'd reportedly gone mad, lost their eyesight, or disappeared completely. 104 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,000 We first landed in a small village just outside the M-Triangle 105 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,000 to see if we could find eyewitnesses to the bizarre phenomena in the region. 106 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:05,000 What we found was a village out of the 1890s with people who told stories right out of Star Wars. 107 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,000 I was walking my grandmother home when we both saw a red flash coming from that zone. 108 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Lots of my friends have seen that too. 109 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Mysterious things that fly in the sky here are common. 110 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 I don't even listen anymore to such old news. 111 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,000 I've seen the saucers numerous times. 112 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 To say that they are nonsense is nonsense. 113 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 We know what we see. 114 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,000 We found no one who had been adversely affected by the reported paranormal activity. 115 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,000 We then proceeded on the final leg of our journey into the M-Triangle, 116 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,000 accompanied by Emil Bakura, ufologist and author of the Russian bestseller UFOs, 117 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Explanation of the Unexplained. 118 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,000 I've written a book about the zone because there have been so many strange experiences here 119 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 by believers and skeptics alike. 120 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Near our tent, one group saw translucent fireballs that chased them into the woods 121 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 and burned them seriously. 122 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Only 17 meters from here, a glowing object stunned a research group, 123 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 one of them in later committed suicide. 124 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,000 We often see groups of UFOs fly past this field. 125 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Sometimes they disappear, sometimes they land and leave radiation. 126 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,000 The UFOs cited here have yet to be fully explained. 127 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,000 The strange light phenomena, however, are thought to be the result of geomagnetic anomalies 128 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 evident in the area, known to scientists as lightning balls. 129 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:35,000 We've used very sensitive equipment that measures and reacts to electricity in a battery 130 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,000 from as far as 100 meters, but the same piece of measuring equipment 131 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,000 wouldn't react to those energetic balls that we've observed. 132 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Therefore, we conclude that the energy is not of an electromagnetic nature. 133 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 The light phenomena are best seen at night. 134 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Our investigative team brought special night vision cameras, 135 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,000 and after several hours, they photographed what can only be described as startling. 136 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,000 George, do we see a satellite? What do you think that was? 137 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 No, satellites cannot do this like this. 138 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 What was it? 139 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,000 I don't know. It cannot do the trajectories like this in the sky, like this, like this. 140 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 The strange streak of light never reappeared. 141 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,000 A frame-by-frame analysis offers more detail, but gives little insight into its origin. 142 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 It may have been a shooting star or a satellite. 143 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 However, there is little debate among the Russian UFO community 144 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,000 that something beyond rational explanation is occurring in this remote region. 145 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 And there is no better proof than Pavel Mahartov, 146 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:44,000 the man who claims he gained secret knowledge that transformed him from journalist to cosmonaut number 152 147 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 after visiting the M Triangle. 148 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Most of the people we talked with in Russia believe UFOs are operating in the M Triangle. 149 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,000 However, off the record, a few scientists offered another possibility. 150 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:02,000 They claim that the Soviet government has been secretly testing a new breed of weapons 151 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:09,000 called psychotronic weapons that immobilize an enemy by creating realistic mass hallucinations. 152 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:16,000 They suggest that eyewitnesses in the M Triangle may have actually seen something that wasn't really there, 153 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,000 because they were unwitting participants in a top-secret military experiment. 154 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Coming up, our ghost investigators uncover an apparition haunting Whitechapel, London. 155 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,000 It was just something I couldn't explain, but it was frightening. 156 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Was she a victim of Jack the Ripper? 157 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,000 The Ten Bells is a pub in Whitechapel at the east end of London. 158 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Haunting phenomena have been reported there for the past hundred years. 159 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 During our own investigation at the Ten Bells, 160 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:49,000 we uncovered evidence that the paranormal activity there may very well be related to a notorious murderer, 161 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 who has never been found. 162 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:57,000 The Ten Bells has been a favorite meeting place in London's Whitechapel district since 1754, 163 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,000 and for the past 100 years, it has also been a favorite haunt for ghostly apparitions, 164 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,000 spotted by owners and customers alike. 165 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,000 It was just something I couldn't explain, but it was frightening. 166 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Haunting is a form of communication. 167 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 We first brought our investigation into the pub's dank cellar, 168 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,000 where many people have experienced haunting phenomena and apparitions. 169 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Siding's asked renowned psychic investigator Marion Dapier-Jeans 170 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 to record her impressions at the Ten Bells. 171 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,000 There's quite, if you like, a bit of a tragic sort of place, 172 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 but spirit are definitely in here. 173 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,000 This is the door that we can hear banging during the night, 174 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 and you can get a funny feeling of presence. 175 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,000 And I know that spirit have showed himself to landlords who've been here. 176 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,000 On a number of occasions, we heard footsteps. 177 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 We come upstairs here and we find nothing. 178 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 And this will totally, completely disappear. 179 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,000 The whole atmosphere here is very different. It's very disturbing, if you like. 180 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,000 About five months ago, I was here managing the bar. 181 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,000 After about eight or nine days here, I went down to the cellar. 182 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,000 When I got down to the bottom of the stairs, I went over to the right. 183 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Very briefly, I got a glimpse of a woman in sort of old-style clothes. 184 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,000 I think she comes to what is known as the old grounds, 185 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 where she might have been, where she might have existed. 186 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 It gave me just as much a fright, you know, really. 187 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Frightened, I've got to be honest. 188 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:36,000 I would say she's from about 1856, 1860, whatever, it's around that era, I mean. 189 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,000 She's been spotted downstairs on numerous occasions by previous managers. 190 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 I still feel that there was a murder committed. 191 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 But again, you know, I'm not quite sure who did the murder 192 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 or why the murder was taken shape or place. 193 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,000 This place was used to be frequently used by the ladies of the night, 194 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 going back to Jack the Ripper's time. 195 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,000 A young lady, five foot too tall, she said, lives. 196 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,000 It's been proved that Elizabeth Stride did drink care. 197 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Marion had provided an important clue to the identity of at least one apparition, 198 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,000 the name Liz, and indeed, Elizabeth Stride, a prostitute, 199 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 was a frequent customer here in the late 1800s. 200 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,000 On September the 30th, 1888, Stride, known as Long Liz, 201 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,000 was the third victim of Jack the Ripper. 202 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Could it be her restless spirit that haunts the ten bells today? 203 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Our psychic investigator believed so. 204 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,000 But we also called in scientific investigator Tony Cornell for his opinion. 205 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,000 I mean, people in poltergeist cases and hauntings, they see things and hear things. 206 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Now, that's okay for them. It's real to them. 207 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 But for us, for it to be real to us, we want it on film. 208 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 We set out to try to film the haunting phenomena, 209 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 but our camera operator was stymied. 210 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,000 As we came into this little room we are in now, 211 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:04,000 the recording fault in the viewfinder was going berserk, 212 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 and we had to find the best way to describe it. 213 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,000 And so we've now come in here again to play it back, 214 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 and we just started up. 215 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,000 And yes, it's still showing strangely the viewfinder. 216 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Psychic investigator Nella Jones has worked with Scotland Yard on a number of cases. 217 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,000 We asked her to walk through Whitechapel to see if she felt a psychic connection 218 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000 between the hauntings and Jack the Ripper. 219 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 We also brought in Don Rumbolo, Ripper historian, 220 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 and the owner of one of the alleged murder weapons. 221 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,000 I'm pleased to have possession of it, but I don't know about Proud. 222 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,000 I mean, it's such a macabre weapon. 223 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,000 This is definitely the place. I would stake my reputation on that. 224 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,000 It has a thumb grip on the blade for cutting upwards. 225 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,000 This is how you can tell that it's different from other knives of the period. 226 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Well, if Nella felt something here, there's a very good reason for it, 227 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,000 because this is where the body of the first of Jack the Ripper's victims 228 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 was found on the night of the 31st of August, 1888. 229 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Claiming no knowledge of where the murders had occurred, 230 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Nella led us to this site but would not work with Rumbolo's knife. 231 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Take it back, please. I don't want to know. 232 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000 I don't know about that. 233 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 If they could feel what I feel when I touch that, 234 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 they wouldn't even want to look at it. 235 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Documents, letters at the time, contemporary memoirs, this is evidence. 236 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Using it with due respect to Nella, using a psychic is not proof. 237 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 What's new in this case is really what's old. 238 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,000 It was author and historian Paul Begg, 239 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,000 who was finally able to shed some new light on this dark subject. 240 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,000 30th of September, 1888 was the night of the double event 241 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,000 when Jack the Ripper killed two women within an hour. 242 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 The first of those murders took place along this street. 243 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000 In fact, a street not far from the Ten Bells pub. 244 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 It's an interesting case because it's the one instance 245 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 where we probably have a witness to Jack the Ripper in action. 246 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 A man named Israel Schwartz was walking down the road. 247 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 In front of him was another man, 248 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,000 and ahead of both of them standing in the entrance to a yard was a woman. 249 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 And as the second man approached, 250 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,000 he attacked and assaulted the woman and threw her to the ground. 251 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Israel Schwartz probably saw Jack the Ripper committing his crime, 252 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,000 murdering Elizabeth Stride, 253 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:24,000 who was found dead in the alleyway about 15 minutes later. 254 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Because there was a witness, 255 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,000 the murder of Elizabeth Stride was key to Scotland Yards investigation. 256 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 The most important piece of information that's come to light 257 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,000 in the last couple of years is what we call the Swanson Marginalia. 258 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 These notes were written by a man called Swanson 259 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,000 who had overall responsibility for the investigation of the crimes. 260 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,000 And in those penciled notes, he names Jack the Ripper. 261 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000 He says that the Ripper was a man called Kosminski. 262 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 If the police at the time were right, 263 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,000 and if we've understood the information that we've got correctly, 264 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Aaron Kosminski was Jack the Ripper. 265 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Our ghost investigation at the Ten Bells, 266 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 near the site of Elizabeth Stride's murder, 267 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,000 poses intriguing new questions about the identity of Jack the Ripper. 268 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Foremost, he's the ghost of Long Liz trying to communicate some important clues. 269 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Is she trying to add her voice to those who believe Eric Kosminski 270 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 is the bloody murderer known as Jack the Ripper? 271 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 And if police believed Kosminski was the Ripper, 272 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,000 why wasn't he arrested? 273 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Now, because Aaron Kosminski had never been tried, had never been convicted, 274 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,000 they were not able to release that information to the public. 275 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,000 And that's why this has always remained a mystery. 276 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,000 While Eric Kosminski is considered a prime suspect, 277 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Scotland Yard still holds files on two additional men 278 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 they believe could be the real Jack the Ripper. 279 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 But will we ever know for sure? 280 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Some psychics answer yes, 281 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,000 and suggest we listen more carefully to the ghostly presence in London's East End. 282 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Coming up, can science bring the Iceman back to life through cloning? 283 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,000 The idea of cloning human beings is an interesting one. 284 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 A special update, next. 285 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,000 The discovery in 1991 of a remarkably preserved human 286 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 thought to be more than 5,000 years old 287 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,000 has captured the attention of scientists around the world. 288 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Dubbed the Iceman, archaeologists are studying his remains. 289 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Anthropologists are learning more about his behavior, 290 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,000 and genetic engineers want the Iceman for experiments in cloning. 291 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:31,000 He is considered by many to be the most important archaeological discovery of all time, 292 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:36,000 a unique window to what we were like a thousand years before the pyramids were built. 293 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 He's called the Iceman, 294 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:43,000 a miraculously preserved human specimen who froze to death over 5,000 years ago 295 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,000 and literally remained on ice until his discovery last year in the Italian Alps. 296 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Unlike mummies and other bodies found after burial, 297 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,000 the Iceman was flash frozen as he lived, 298 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,000 resulting in a kind of ancient snapshot of the late Stone Age. 299 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,000 He doesn't look quite so dead. He's got, he's still got the flesh on him. 300 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 The pores of the skin are there, the fingernails are there. 301 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Even his eyes are there. He happened to freeze with his eyelid open, 302 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:16,000 and you can see this cloudy eyeball kind of glistening just inside his head. 303 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Actually seeing this frozen man from the distant past 304 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,000 has inspired many to consider what science could do to bring him back to life 305 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,000 through cloning techniques which have proven successful in frogs. 306 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Frogs were cloned, and they were all identical, excellent. 307 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,000 They were ex-tuplets of the original frog that was cloned, 308 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,000 but that frog was a tadpole, and when you try to clone the adult stage of that same frog, 309 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 nobody could do it. 310 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,000 Something happens to the cells, to the DNA, that makes them unclonable. 311 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,000 The idea of cloning human beings is an interesting one, 312 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,000 but it's a largely theoretical concept at this juncture. 313 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,000 But theoretical concepts, science fiction to some, often become science fact. 314 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,000 So what could we expect if cloning experiments with the Iceman are successful? 315 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:12,000 You could take those genes, put them in the ovum from a woman, implant that in her uterus, 316 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:18,000 and it would grow up and it would be essentially the identical twin of the Iceman. 317 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Unfortunately, he would not know a thing about life in the late Neolithic. 318 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Cloning the Iceman's body may become a future reality, 319 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:36,000 but cloning his mind and the memories it contains is likely to remain the ultimate scientific puzzle. 320 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Input from viewers is an important part of our sightings investigations. 321 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:45,000 If you videotaped or photographed what you believed to be paranormal activity, 322 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000 our sightings investigative team wants to know about it. 323 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 To report your sightings, call 1900-740-SITE. 324 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Each call 75 cents a minute, average call less, two minutes, and you must be 18 years or older. 325 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Again, the sightings hotline is 1900-740-7483. 326 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Next sightings, the hunt for ghosts leads us to Alcatraz, 327 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000 where our paranormal investigator uncovers haunting evidence. 328 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,000 There are at least 100 ghosts here. 329 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Plus mass UFO sightings in Mexico on the next sightings. 330 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Join us next time for new investigations into the unexplained. 331 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,000 For Sightings, I'm Tim White. 332 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Sunday at 7, 6 central, supermodel Cindy Crawford hosts an hour of death-defying action and spectacular stunts 333 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 on Stunt Women World Tour Sunday. 334 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,000 And coming up, he's handsome, he's sexy, and he's way dead. 335 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Who killed the dating show stud? 336 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,000 You solve the mystery on an all-new likely suspects next. 337 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Sightings.